Shane Phillips of the UCLA Lewis Center is on to talk about his recent Atlantic article about the limitations of homeownership of a wealth-building tool; we also dig into his 2020 book "The Affordable City" and talk about what tools cities can use so that everything is less screwed up. Only the most controversial topics get discussed: vacancy studies, vacancy control/decontrol, the politics of rent control, home equity, generational inequities, and much much more